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Posted - 2012.05.27 21:27:00 -
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You are investing time into something you don't really understand, Mr. Successful Real-Life Businessman Married With Children.
You see, this is a video game that focuses on conflict, scamming, violence, murder, and sociopathy. This is not a family-friendly pastime created for the enjoyment and benefit of working family men to unwind after a hard day of shaking hands and having power lunches. |

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Posted - 2012.05.27 22:56:00 -
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Oddball Six wrote:Quote:You are investing time into something you don't really understand, Mr. Successful Real-Life Businessman Married With Children. Had I not given the background, you would be accusing me of living on the game and/or in my parent basement. I prefer being attacked for my success. Further, you can afford to disparage the casual gamer segment and its thoughts. Its $15 a month to you. CCP cannot. Every tenth of a percent in subscriber turnover affects either future development funding or operating income. Eventually that becomes jobs. Nope, that's an assumption you're making. I don't bring peoples' real-life activities into in-game discussions. You chose to do so yourself, and got ridiculed for it.
As far as casual gamers go, I don't for one second believe that their existence justifies the destruction of a unique product on the MMO market. Can you honestly name another game that allows this level of ruthlessness? So, if you want a nice, relaxing, safe environment, you have other choices. For those of us who like EVE the way it currently is (or to some extent, the way it was before it was somewhat "casualized" for players like yourself), this is the only option. We have nowhere else to go, aside from maybe, in your opinion, psychiatric institutions.
Oddball Six wrote:Quote:You see, this is a video game that focuses on conflict, scamming, violence, murder, and sociopathy. This is not a family-friendly pastime created for the enjoyment and benefit of working family men to unwind after a hard day of shaking hands and having power lunches. Actually thats only one attitude about what it is. And even only one facet of how its advertised. Its also been advertised about being a universe where you can do anything. Make a career that you want. Play the game that you want. And I'm playing the game the way I want, which focuses entirely on destroying other players.
When you started playing this game, you explicitly agreed that all of the possessions within the game are not your property, that they are the property of CCP, and are subject to whatever rules CCP wants to enforce in regard to their usage. These rules, as set by CCP, allow the destruction of these assets by other players at their own discretion, and place the responsibility of asset defense solely on yourself.
I am sure a successful businessman such as yourself reads EULAs before signing service contracts, right? |

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Posted - 2012.05.28 00:00:00 -
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Homo Jesus wrote:I too want a change to the rules so it's easier for me to win at something. Whenever I get the time I'll find the bits and pieces of the EULA that support my views and make another thread to help our douche bag cause. He's simply used to the real-life status quo, where people like himself have always gotten ahead via lobbying and frivolous lawsuits. There is nothing competitive about the state of business today, save for the free-for-all that is the entry-level job market. The whole system is fixed and rotten, but aside from that, it encourages complacency.
He is unable to enter an environment that EVE simulates, a purer, more base environment, and compete. He became lost, and unable to respond to changing trends. So he came to the forums, and with the usual passive-aggressive attitude that his kind exhibits, tried to get what he wants by making a bunch of real-life legal parallels.
At some point, he forgot that he was playing a video game with guns.
The thing that gets me the most, though, is that he thinks that his subscription acts as anything more than a cash buffer for CCP's actual development budget. It is indeed ignorant to think that CCP itself doesn't realize that the players who whine about getting killed will quit at some point. The only way they would stay (and even that is questionable, due to the whole boredom factor), is if these players were never violenced in any way, shape, or form. And in a game like EVE, that's simply impossible. |

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Posted - 2012.05.28 02:18:00 -
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Aruken Marr wrote:So you want to take more? Why not just request the removal of non-consensual pvp from hisec seeing as thats what youll be asking for 3 months after they introduced said fines... They've been doing this for over half a decade.
And slowly getting there. |

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Posted - 2012.05.28 03:24:00 -
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Oddball Six wrote:Quote:How is that these "casuals" don't seem to get that their subscription is just a convenient cash grab by ccp. They don't matter as they come and go all the time. Thanks for injecting cash into ccp's wallet so they can keep developing the game for those that get it. Make the gun substantially more dangerous and/or less fun for the casuals and a funny thing happens. You start losing them. You are actually proving my point, not debasing it. You are operating under the assumption that we want them.
Not all publicity is good publicity. Not all money is good money. |

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Posted - 2012.05.29 04:18:00 -
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MR DEMOS wrote:in all honesty i think the OP dose have some valid points and i haven't seen anyone in this thread debate him on this lvl ..... Valid questions that maybe CCP should adress.. But there again CCP just wants it's money and wants us to blow stuff up so :))) sry op sandbox rules... The OP's "lvl" is that he's a successful businessman and married and has kids, therefore he should get what he wants because he's entitled. That's below all other whine-bears; at least the other bears base their arguments on real-life morality and half-assed economic theories.
I'm still not entirely sure how a person can play this game for many years and be completely oblivious to the fact that spaceships+guns=violence. I've never watched a football game in my life, but I still know that people beat the **** out of each other in that game. |

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Posted - 2012.05.29 04:23:00 -
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Ramon Sohei wrote:The bounty hunter system in EVE is broken. Should be able to attack anyone in hisec with a bounty on their head and pod them without CONCORD interference. That would fix alot of problems. All you need for a bounty is a -1.0 rating. You're essentially advocating that a person who committed a minor crime or two (or better yet, actually had the integrity to give things like low-sec a shot) be a free-for-all target.
How about we give you that change, and in exchange replace CONCORD with tankable faction police spawns? |

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Posted - 2012.05.29 05:32:00 -
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E man Industries wrote:that is fun....if i wanted to mine by myself in a vacume with no other players....well i'd go seek medical help. Or play the X series of games |

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Posted - 2012.05.29 09:10:00 -
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Tobiaz wrote:Yes, ANYTHING can be ganked in high-sec, no matter the tank. But gankers prefer going for the weakest link and needing 2 or 3 Catalysts will keep your ship safe from the majority of gankers that do it solo. I respect the ones that fit properly, but I also check the forums to see if they previously whined or gave CCP "advice" on how to "fix" the game. If they did, then I get a Tornado. |
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